Cub
8 post s
21-Jun-2008
4:03 PM
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New Hampshire has some great bucks,but I believe somthing similar to Pennsylvania would be great! Fork on one side in the southern part of the state,from Concord north 3 pts on one side.I also think that N.H's season's are too long.They should be:bow 2 months,muzz 1 week,gun 2 weeks.Kids can shoot anything on there weekend.I know Bone won't like this-but its not the quanity of days but the quality.I think N.H can produce more booners.WE JUST NEED TO LET THEM GROW..........Tell me what you think
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Bone
RDP Pro Staff
4 post s
22-Jun-2008
5:38 AM
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Antler stuff is good for those who want bigger deer..I guess after a few years of hunting we all do..V.T. had some antler stuff going on and we were in some nice buck.. I think it helped V.T.. I shot Does with a muzzy for years...like 150lbs round nose roans...to 100lbs tender vids..now I take a doe if... I'm lucky....asap to get vennie in the freezer..we eat a-lot..a-lot of vennie..does just taste better..!! I see and we are takin nice-nice Buck each year... I don't know if we need antler restriction..it's a matter of choise for the hunter to decide if he or she is gonna flatten that 4 prong ( Day ) and write this down...OR WAIT 5 MINS FOR THE BIG BUCK TO STEP OUT,,!!! I personally like to make my own mind when it comes to shootin any Buck...I'm a N.H. Deer hunter..as we hunt longer the natural progressin of holding out for 8's and up just kinda happens...if they shortened the season it would be a Katastrafi..bow huntin for 3 months has been my way of life for 20 yrs now...I got to hunt 90 days..
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Armand
RDP Pro Staff
8 post s
22-Jun-2008
10:05 AM
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My opinion--Well the antler restriction for someone like me would work. BUT it would be unfair to the beginning hunter who would almost die to shoot that first spike. I do believe it drastically improves the quality of deer in the state, as seen in VT already and it has just started. My personal opinion is go back to either sex for all of Muzzleloader season. Then the meat hunters can get their deer instead of having to shoot a spike or 4 to get their venison. I personally have seen fewer big bucks each year since this has happened.
As far as shortening the season. I like the 3 months. You will RARELY ever see anyone except the hardcore hunters pull out their bow once November starts. So I think all it would hurt is the hunters like us. I have yet to ever see another hunter after gun season. Too cold for most to hold a bow. LOL
My thoughts
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Bone
RDP Pro Staff
8 post s
22-Jun-2008
12:29 PM
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Like always I gotta agree with Armand..but I owe a-lot of my experence to you Cub..let the deerhunter hammer down with a muzzy..remember the days of old..no-one in the woods after the 3rd day of muzzy..heck I shot 20 doe myself..it was the best..this does't force meat-hunters to shoot a small buck..great point..This would bring back the good old days and grow more 3-4 year olds for the Buck hunters out there..I only hunt here and ccross the river----BY CHOISE--seein any Buck is a feet..killin a good one is a super-bowl touchdown from Brady..consistantly killin good Buck in N.H your a huntin machine!!!??? and the life style that takes..that's anouther topic...it's hard huntin here and I'm proud of all that shoot Buck here..??
Last Edited on 22-Jun-2008 12:41 PM
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Cub
9 post s
22-Jun-2008
1:28 PM
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I agree totally with shooting does during muzzleloader and rifle.The buck to doe ratio is outta whack here.....
Hunting the first year of an antler restriction would be tough on beginners.But, that beginner would forget all about not being able to shoot that spike when he pulls outta the check station the next year with a 160lb 7 pointer!!!!!!!!!and every year after that.
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Cub
10 post s
22-Jun-2008
2:44 PM
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Bone----I read your post's(several times)I still don't even know what you said.
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Tracey
RDP Pro Staff
2 post s
9-Jul-2008
9:44 AM
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I have to agree with Armand. I am still pretty new to hunting .... just started last year. I don't think I would even want to go again this year if I wasn't able to harvest my first spike last season. I understand the need to let the deer grow, but again, if you're just starting out there may be alot of would-be hunters that don't come back to the sport if they have to hold out their very first year! It's an exciting time and if you ask Armand, he'll tell you, I was ready to shoot ANYTHING (LOL)- even a guy walking across the field (right Bone!)! Just kidding, but I was certainly ready to get something harvested. I guess it's a double edged sword really!
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Cub
18 post s
9-Jul-2008
1:55 PM
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This post is purely my opinion.Again I also agree with Armand about shooting Does,give the meat hunters muzzleloader and the first week of rifle to shoot a Doe.
To me (again my opinion)killing a deer is a bonus and is not the sole reason I go into the woods.Theres nothing better than hunting with friends and family,the stories and memories will last forever.Personally I get more enjoyment in watching a six pointer than shooting him.I just want to shoot bigger bucks and antler restriction is a good way to get there.Hey,it took me 3 years to get my first deer and I'm still hunting.The first year would be tough;I agree............the very next year would reward all of us.
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Armand
RDP Pro Staff
21 post s
9-Jul-2008
9:08 PM
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Lucky for you Cub you have all that land to hunt where you already have limits in place..So you are well on your way to having a little honey hole for big ones..Cany wait to see what you pop up there..Push a few over to me ok..HAHA
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Shawn
RDP Pro Staff
2 post s
12-Jul-2008
6:47 AM
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Guess I lean with my long term hunting buddy cub on this topic, Armand you did see one of the NH 8s i passed on last weekend of rifle : ) lol since i also have permission to hunt the antler restricted area we will try and run a few hogs out of there for the crew : ) even though this is my opinion i am 100% pro-choice if a hunter (day) wants to put the smack down on a few 4 prongs then may he eat well, also I do remember shooting every deer i saw for the first ten yrs lol, imagine if they told me to hold off for a big buck back then lol not a chance, love the mutual agreement on the muzzle loader season for does. I have started to open my eyes a bit to meat hunting since im involved in a video production company lol Cub we would have some good old friendship vids but not to many kills filmed on vids if we kept heading out to Rumney or Dorchester, i know we think the same in this topic since we both have talked about this for a long time but i do have to admit that i enjoy so much seeing Tracy whack that velvet spike so much, her excitment expresses her kill like it was a NH boonermakes me remember back when i shot my first. I believe Cub when we both have our new PSE recurves in our hands that their just might be a good blood trail leading to a nice fresh pile of tender back straps hopefully you or i will remember to turn the camera on for that moment : )
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huntddeer
1 post
12-Jul-2008
8:09 AM
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Plenty of deer out there for everyone....if you want the big one, just hunt harder in higher places....as far as antler restrictions....here's a unique idea....how about an earn a buck tag program (got to take a doe first)....that way meat hunters are happy, the buck /doe ratio problem is addressed, and anyone who doesn't want their doe meat can donate it to farmers and hunters feeding the hungry program...just a thought...Keep up the good work RDP
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Armand
RDP Pro Staff
22 post s
13-Jul-2008
4:34 PM
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Huntdeer,
another good suggestion on the earn a buck. Though I think this state likes to protect their does too much and slaughter their bucks. I just hope we dont end up like VT was with everyone shooting spikes because thats all they can find. Its a hard subject to resolve for everyone I guess. Nobody wants the same things so its hard to agree.
All I know is I see fewer BIG bucks than I used to everywhere. 6 years ago you could shine a field and see 5 rackers. Now im lucky to see one..But you can find one here and there so thats what keeps me going.
Good luck to everyone..
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JF5
1 post
15-Jul-2008
9:55 AM
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My first post! Hello everyone. This is just my opinion...so take it for what its worth. Keep in mind,I have only hunted NH for two years, but have deer hunted MA for 20+, as well as many other states and canada. I am genreally pro AR, but not in all cases. It was a great idea for PA (when coupled with herd reduction) and simply needed in VT. PA is not comparable to NH at all IMO so its not a good comparison. VT had a buck age class issue that needed to be sorted out. 1.5YO bucks where way to high a percentage of the take. Now that its been on a few years, harvest data has shown results as going in the right direction, with an increase in age of buck harvested as well as higher average weights. It seems to be working. I am not sure AR would be good for NH though. I am not dead set against it, and will probably still hunt NH if one was implemeted. But NH (like MA) dosn't have a buck age class problem like VT had. Plenty of bucks 2.5-4.5 YO in the harvest and some real nice bucks. Here in MA, we get TWO buck tags, 3" spike min. Yet we are regisatering more monster bucks than ever. We are entering more deer in NEBBC these days than Maine. All without AR. Maybe our liberal doe harvest is part of that, but not all of it. Another thing about NH...I don't think you can treat the whole state as the same. Deer are over capacity in M, so there should be no AR under such a situation, especially around the suburbs. We have to remember our role as deer population managers there. Up north can be a different story, but then comes into play the role of winter habitat. If there is poor winter habitat, all the AR in the world won't save that spike during a hard winter. Any AR program should be coupled with a habitat program. Especially here in the north country. I guess its all in your personal prespective. I see AR as a good tool for overall heard health, and not a trophy regulation. If the age class of bucks is already good...why try and fix it? (And possibly isolating some hunters in the meantime) My 2cents..
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Anonymous
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0 post
17-Jul-2008
7:29 AM
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I think jf5 hit it on the head,Although i wouln't be against
antler restriction. I do think NH has to allow the oppertunity to take more doe!! If NH goes back to having all ten days of muzzleloader open to either sex it would allow those hunters who would be happy to shoot a doe a better chance, and the wouldn't be forced to shoot a buck.
Right now if those hunters don't get a doe within the first three days, they now have to shoot a buck.
More doe days = Les buck shot, more doe shot...
Perfect, I'm sick of tripping on doe. ps. archery should be - either sex both tags!!!
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Armand
RDP Pro Staff
25 post s
17-Jul-2008
8:04 PM
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Totally agree..Both tags should be either sex..Basically right now you HAVE to shoot 2 bucks if you hunt all the seasons..Even if you are just out for meat..Which usually means a spike or 4 prong is going to get it..haha
I have eaten alot of tags because I will not shoot the little guys anymore..But most people who just hunt NH want meat..So they have to do what they have to do..Either that or go to VT like we do for our meat...
Glad to see soo many opinions on this subject..Keep it up guys
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Cub
20 post s
20-Jul-2008
7:57 AM
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I guess if i was in charge of N.H's deer hunt there would be a lynch mob after me.......There is nowhere near the same amount of of 4.5 year old bucks as we used to have.Something should be done before this state is like Vermont.Even shooting more does would help.
Last Edited on 20-Jul-2008 8:03 AM
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Armand
RDP Pro Staff
26 post s
20-Jul-2008
3:54 PM
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HAHAHA...Dont think you would have to worry cub..They hate it in every state until it has been going for 2 or 3 years..Then they think it is the best thing ever..But I agree, nowhere near the amount of mature bucks as 5 or 6 years ago..Which is sad after so many easy winters besides last years..
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panax quinquefolius
1 post
24-Jul-2008
3:53 PM
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Cub,
It's to bad more people are not willing to sacrifice like yourself to have a better quality experience. I'm all for reducing the season, more doe days etc...I say let the kids take a doe the whole season not just youth weekend they need the experience under there belt of laying down a few to get and keep them hooked. also the seniors god bless them for still getting out there they should be entitled to take a doe throughout the season, most have probably shot enough big ones that what they want is good eating instead of another rack. NH is on the wrong track AS FAR AS QUALITY GOES.. yes there are more deer then back in the 70's but.. I believe the state is more interested in quanity then quality. I hear it from all corners but nobody is actually comitted enough to want to give up a tag or see the season shortened. I know you can't please everyone all the time but I believe there are more people that want to get a big buck then just fill the freezer maybe when you buy your tag you could buy either a doe or buck tag? or how about a lottery for a buck tag? I can say with fuel prices out of hand more people are talking about staying closer to home this year that definetly won't help protect the younger bucks. If the state doesn't see the problem why are they already doing the point restriction and shorter season up north? do you suppose the people that hunt up there hang it up for that last week or are they just moving south where the season is still open? alot of people say they are not hunting for the horns then how come you don't see more big does at the taxidermists shops? or on the cover of magazines? I think everyone should HAVE to whack a rubber head before they can TRY for a buck. I know the experts say well there out there you won't find and get one every year. that is true but when you run numerous scouting cameras throughout the year and MAYBE get 1 or 2 mature bucks over several towns and mountain ranges that should tell you something. you can't kill what ain't there. there is the option of going out of state where there are more big bucks and increase your odds... I haven't bought a muzzleloader license in NH for several years now for just that reason maybe that should tell NH F&G something about why there in the red I know I'm not the only one. At least they don't make you get a license to shed hunt YET but it's frustrating hunting deer sheds in NH those dam spikes and forks lay awful flat....
Last Edited on 24-Jul-2008 4:31 PM
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Cub
23 post s
24-Jul-2008
5:28 PM
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Well,thank you very much!I would have thought that more people would have agreed but people don't realize that pennslvannia is already one of the top states in the country for producing boone and crockett whitetails(in the last few years).Thanks to antler restriction!I guess most people would rather shoot spikes and forks.A.R would work here.............
Last Edited on 24-Jul-2008 5:30 PM
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Shawn
RDP Pro Staff
4 post s
24-Jul-2008
5:32 PM
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yes indeed but only after you have killed a few dozen Does to get hooked as we all did and a few spikes a TREE pointers : )
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Armand
RDP Pro Staff
34 post s
24-Jul-2008
5:46 PM
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Well Cub, you have definitely started the most viewed and talked about post. Actually that last guy sounds like another fella we all look up to as far as whitetails go..I do agree that it is needed. My biggest worry is ruining it for the beginners..Im not out to shoot little ones anyways.
Great views..Love reading this one...
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panax quinquefolius
2 post s
24-Jul-2008
5:47 PM
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Just came in from shooting bow got to practice harder the targets keep getting smaller every year. Just a quick note I'm not all about the antlers its about having MATURE BUCKS in the herd where we have a actual rut where bucks scrape and fight and tend does etc. We will never have the antler quality of the midwest due to available nutrition. but even the hunters from VT are starting to say that we are headed down the same road they WERE ON.
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Bone
RDP Pro Staff
16 post s
24-Jul-2008
7:15 PM
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Panax... Wow do you have some great ideas..how do we as N.H. deerhunters get the voice we need to let the F & G know what we are seein and feelin..??? You otta run for office..! I let the xperts do their thing..but when you are paying for a tag..you should be given a chance to speak your mind to someone who can help out..a leazon if you will..between the hunter and the state..to make everybody understand whats going on and why..?? My deal is honestly and I hope I don't jinx it.. I see more rack Buck now in this state than ever.. I run very basic..no scouting cameras...( unless Armand is with me filming scoutin missions ) but I enjoy shin-nen for Bucks while this great state allows us.!! Time in the woods plays a huge factor here in New England..This valley is home to some of New Englands greatest sportsmen..Guy's that shoot huge trophy buck year in and out..sometimes Critter shoots 2 or 3..BUT THERE IS ONE THING DIFFERENT ABOUT THESE LEDGENDS!! They are in the woods all the time.. Anouther local woodsmen that I have the honor of knowing spent 351 days in the woods in 1998..findin honey holes and picken up moose sheds..!!! This state holds some monster Buck..I'VE MISSED ABOUT 10 OF THEM..?? But the local woodsmen have inspired me to get up the next mornin..call in sick..and hunt..!! If you put your time in and pass up some small ones.. you will get a crack at a N.H. Corker..Thanks for your insite..sounds to me like you really care about the N.H. deer herd and the sportsmen that hunt them..!! IF YOU RUN FOR THE OFFICE OF DEER MANAGEMENT YOU GET MY VOTE.. GREAT SUGGESTIONS..!! It would be a katastrafe if this state let's IT'S LOYAL HARDCORE deer hunters like yourself down to the point of not buyin a muzzy tag..somebody do something..??!!! BUT if there were huge Buck runnin around every where like a lot of other states would it still mean the same..!!?? Would the N.E. Buck hunter be the same..??? Would The Benoits still be concidered the best Buck hunters on the planet..?? This message board rocks..Thanks to all for your time and thoughts..??
Last Edited on 24-Jul-2008 9:23 PM
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panax quinquefolius
3 post s
25-Jul-2008
2:58 AM
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bone
wherever you hunt you need to put your time in to be CONSISTENTLY sucsesful and no place is this more true then the northeast. but when you do go the extra mile and still don't even get a pic. or glimpse of a mature racker, don't find any fresh scrapes after the first flurry in sept / oct. or the bulk of the rubs you find are on trees the size of your thumb it gets discouraging I hunt as hard as most and am not looking for any shortcut but I truly believe our mature buck population is not what it used to be even 10yrs. ago, and the way things are headed sure don't look good. maybe a couple more winters like last will prove to F&G you can't stock pile game in this region. as far as politics thats what the county commisioners are for have you talked to one lately? my opinion is your time would be better well spent scouting for one of the few big bucks left.
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Bone
RDP Pro Staff
19 post s
25-Jul-2008
5:37 AM
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Panax.. I have not met our county commish..It sceems that all sportsmen should at least know who this person is and what his or her role is..Do you have any info on this..??if so please share it so the conserned Buck hunter can hopefully make a difference and speek their mind.. Is this office held by someone who is accessable for us..I have a PERSONAL FIX FOR AR here in N.H. I go to V.T. and Hammer the first 4 prong I see..?? AR has defenetly worked for the Vermonters..Now instead of seein a spike horn on every woodbody Toyota ..you see a 4 prong..??? Just kiddin! This will be the year to see what V.T.'s program is doin...Word on the street is folks are seeing 8's and up all over V.T. Some of the most impressive Buck sign I saw last year was in Windsor V.T. Huge Rubs and lot's of them..You have opened my eyes and provided intelligent, well spoken oppinion on this subject..Thanks..Plese keep the good stuff rollin man..WE need MORE informed sportsmen like yourself to help F&G understand what is happenin before it's too late...
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JF5
5 post s
25-Jul-2008
10:48 AM
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Why do you guys think MA is producing many big bucks w/o AR and with two buck tags per license (3" min)??
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Cub
25 post s
25-Jul-2008
12:15 PM
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Is Mass shooting more 4.5 year old bucks than ever before?Or are they shooting 20 booners every year?I think food plots are giving some bucks that extra nutrition to push those horns past the 170" mark.Maybe it's all the posted land down there it allows them to grow.I am by far no expert at this,just my belief.Maybe Mass is shooting more does also?
This is what N.H IS DOING CURRENTLY IN UNIT A-The deer population in the north country has fewer older,mature bucks than is desired in the herd.ANTLER RESTRICTION is in place in this unit AND the number of days to hunt deer has been reduced,in an effort to improve"the buck age class structure".Restrictions apply to all hunters ,with the exception to youth hunters during the youth hunting weekend....So the State of New Hampshire is currently using ANTLER RESTRICTION to try and put more trophy quailty bucks back into the herd.Maybe this would not work in southern N.H,But it would here in unit G.
Last Edited on 26-Jul-2008 3:12 AM
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panax quinquefolius
4 post s
25-Jul-2008
4:54 PM
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JF5,
I know MASS is producing some really nice bucks I feel the reason for this is 2 fold. 1) There are alot of people out there who own a chunk of land and are practicing there own version of AR or QDM might be a better term they are either drastically reducing the # of bucks being shot and or keepin the does whacked down and allowing a min. # of people on there land. 2.) the other end of the spectrum are the people who own a chunk of land who would not let anyone including there best friend hunt there property dare I say anti hunter. anyway this does 1 major thing it allows deer to reach MATURITY... I truly believe this will lead to a possible record at a national level to come from a state like mass, conn, marlyand, etc.. the problem in NH although a nice one is you can pretty much hunt anywhere thus the deer can only run so far then they just die tired. Kidding but what I mean is they have limited SANCTUARIES to retreat to. have you noticed a surprising # of impressive bucks coming out of NH these days are coming, not from the big woods but the more populated areas some little hidey hole where they have found a niche to grow to MATURITY. like the KLUCKY buck. unfortunately we hunters have become a lot more efficent deer KILLERS in the last few decades then ever I say killers because I feel WOODSMANSHIP has taken a slide backwards but that is a whole nother topic. Bone,
the commissioner for Grafton county is Sharon Guaraldi w/ Guaraldi Insurance Lebanon NH all the county commish's info can be retrieved on the NH F&G website cub,
don't give up there is hope...
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Cub
26 post s
25-Jul-2008
4:59 PM
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County Commissioner's
Grafton county-Sharon Guaraldi,603-448-4072
Sullivan county-Tom Hubert,603-863-9213
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Cub
27 post s
25-Jul-2008
6:22 PM
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Thanks american ginseng
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panax quinquefolius
5 post s
27-Jul-2008
4:05 PM
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cub,
I didn't know you spoke Latin? or did you have some help form Google? Did some scouting this weekend no need for AR the bad winter got everything out this way..
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Cub
28 post s
27-Jul-2008
5:45 PM
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Google's a good friend of mine.What happened? find a bunch of bones?Or trying to Discourage me from heading in that direction?I'm going up to smarts next weekend,Some new logging behind res.pond.I'll let you Know,
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panax quinquefolius
6 post s
27-Jul-2008
6:07 PM
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no just funnin ya! there seems to be alot of deer around haven't found a hog yet but a few that would be tempting ecspecially with bow found a decent shed today or I should say my dog did saw a good buck yesterday and got pics of several others on a cam went for a good tour yesterday on the backside of Cardigan towards province rd lots of logging going on back in there not much deer sign though (really)
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Armand
RDP Pro Staff
35 post s
27-Jul-2008
6:19 PM
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I knew that was you on here..Glad to see you checking out the site. Seeing a few good ones near work but nothing near home unfortunately..See a few this weekend that cub overlooked or lied to me about.LOL But good luck killing them where they are. Everyone will have them scared to death a week before the season..
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Cub
29 post s
27-Jul-2008
6:22 PM
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Panax,I know a great spot just off Province,Lots of Oak....Ever been there?Better bring your waders right now....
Last Edited on 27-Jul-2008 6:32 PM
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Cub
30 post s
27-Jul-2008
6:30 PM
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Armand,if thats the field i'm thinking of,the owners called me to do the site work for a house in that field.this fall or next spring..those bucks need to cross the road,go to the park fence and turn right go half mile to the tree stand...
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panax quinquefolius
7 post s
28-Jul-2008
2:37 AM
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yeah I know where you mean you been thru there lately? a good piece of that was private owned the guy went in and scalped alot of that oak, also I checked a bunch of oak this weekned and could not find a acorn I know you said you'd seen a ton. also no beechnuts (checked a few)where I've been in a way thats good doesn't give im so many choices
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Armand
RDP Pro Staff
36 post s
28-Jul-2008
1:11 PM
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Cub, yea one was on farm side and other was on the other side of road. Had another with it I could not see. The one on farm side was a average 8 point. Otherone had a wide rack. Not sure on points. Guess we will see what they do. Have not hunted there in a while.
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Armand
RDP Pro Staff
37 post s
28-Jul-2008
1:13 PM
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No Oak?? Wow, I cant get away from the things. I still have to go check where you found my treestand when you were shed hunting a few years ago near that huge white oak. If there is oaks that is usually great. But I usually see some good ones in the field up the road at night and so far only 2 does. I have already been catching them eating apples too. See nice 8 this morning leaving an apple tree..
This post is getting really long..Start another guys..LOL
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Bone
RDP Pro Staff
20 post s
28-Jul-2008
8:05 PM
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Panax .. Cub.. I.. strictly based on the great posts on this subject pledge to do my part this year for all our Buck hunters here in N.H. NOW I HAVE A TRUE REASON TO SHOOT AT NICE JUICY LONE DOE Not only will I hopefully fill my freezer but I will actually be practicing QDM as we all truly are responciable for OUR BUCK herd here in N.H. I ALSO WILL PASS ON ALL Buck with less than 4 on one side...20inch 6 prongs excluded...I will let flick at the old 200 pounder with a wide anthing on his mellon..any hoo I hope this helps and others will do their part..your insite has opened some eyes over the years I'm sure ..so as far as harvesting doe..which ones are the best to take ???? ..
Last Edited on 28-Jul-2008 9:48 PM
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Armand
RDP Pro Staff
40 post s
28-Jul-2008
9:47 PM
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Ok..I have to admit to being pretty greedy at times with my hunting. I have been trying to shoot 3 good bucks since they opened up the 2 archery tags..Some years I was successful and most I was not. Over the last few years I have asked myself why I do not shoot a doe right off and then wait for big dad. In the late season I have always targeted big bucks and big does. Whichever came by first, but could never make myself do it in early season.Heck I think all I shot with bow in NH last year was a doe. I guess I just love to see that wall full of horn..I may try to shoot a doe right off also and then go for MR big..I guess September will tell the tale..Cant wait to see how it plays out!!There will be meat in the freezer or another head to put on Shawns wall..hahaha Since I have no room..
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Cub
31 post s
29-Jul-2008
4:14 PM
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Armand,maybe I could film you shooting a doe with my recurve?thats my plan(shoot doe with recurve)I guess Bone is getting me a compound,just in case this recurve thing does'nt work out!LOL
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Armand
RDP Pro Staff
42 post s
29-Jul-2008
7:45 PM
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Thats probably a good idea..You miss twice with that thing and you will want the compound back..Plus in Ohio you will want a compound
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Scott
1 post
30-Jul-2008
5:23 PM
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Wow...what a long message! I too am in favor of an antler restriction and have talked to many hunters in VT about the affects that it has had on their deer herd. The majority of VT hunters have seen significant results since implementing the antler restriction in their state. Antler restriction or not, there are many other ways of managing wildlife (deer, bear, turkey,etc.), and we as good stewards of the sport should be practicing them, and encouraging others to practice them for the future of the sport. As I read through previous messages, I admit that I am also guilty of not cracking the many does that I've seen over the last 10+years, and over the last five years I have passed on many imature bucks as well. Right or wrong, my method has helped the doe population in the areas that I hunt, and has resulted with at least one or two good buck photos and/or shot opportunities during the season. Maybe I'll crack one of the old does in my area this year. You guys have seen my photos...any thoughts?
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panax quinquefolius
15 post s
30-Jul-2008
6:20 PM
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I must say this is a hot topic! that seems to have hit some nerves... I will say that I've always been a meat hunter with a bow ie: buck or doe in the freezer they go!!! (heart on the grill is just to good right! ain't that right Bone?) I would love to take a mature buck with a bow but do feel any deer with a bow is a good deer and where I might whack a 2 1/2 yr old with a bow an be tickled. I probably would pass with a rifle given the chance to check them out well! sometimes that just isn't possible your on a good track he jumps up he's headed you got 3 seconds and 2 just went by... I'm not THAT crazy they come to hard in the northeast... everybody's idea of a good hunt / sucsseful seaon is different and to the guy thats tagged some beauties his idea of a shooter is diffrent then a young fellow. What I would like to see is no more than 2 bucks a year and if someone is out hunting and a big old doe and a 4 pt. walk out I wonder what that 4pt . would look like next year....but NH with the ability for 3 bucks that's to much!
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Scott
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30-Jul-2008
6:48 PM
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I agree, 3 Bucks per year is excessive! When you compare NHF&G rules to those of other states that only allow one buck, and one or two does per year, our deer herd numbers and buck/doe ratios are severely scued. And, the states that have more aggressive herd management methods routinely produce better QUALITY deer, not just bigger racks.
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Bone
RDP Pro Staff
26 post s
31-Jul-2008
5:59 PM
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Yes Heart on the grill is the tough to beat..!! But if it's a doe or a 4pt the doe gets it..Thanks for the Knowledge... you still get my vote..
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